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In this episode Jessy and Rebekah recount the whole Samantha Bee (rightfully) calling Ivanka Trump a feckless cunt fiasco and also discuss why that is in no way, shape or form the same thing as Roseanne Barr comparing Valerie Jarrett to an ape. And then your favorite hosts delve into the world of the incels. It is scary, it is infuriating, it is misogynist garbage but the ladies try their best to lighten it up here and there. And then, because no one should end a podcast on an incel note, Jessy and Rebekah trade fun animal facts. Listen, learn, laugh, share and please, please, please review us!

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And now for the notes…

  • 00:33: Here is a link to Ivanka’s photo, and some background information from our friends at The Guardian, in case you missed it
  • 00:45: And here is the audio of Jeff Sessions doing what Jeff Sessions does best: being a complete and total monster. Honestly it’s hard to listen to so be warned.
  • 00:59: And here is Samantha Bee calling Ivanka Trump a feckless cunt, as she should
  • 01:50: Here is a link to Rebecca Traister’s tweet thread and also an article she wrote for The Cut that expands upon her ideas. You all should follow her. She rocks.
  • 03:15: Here is a fantastic article by Roxane Gay about Roseanne Barr, why what she tweeted was steeped in historical and institutionalized racism and how even though ABC was right to cancel her show, she never should have gotten this reboot in the first place. Roseanne Barr has been a racist, misogynist, Islamophobic, anti-Semitic, TERF for a long time. This behavior was nothing new and just helps to normalize the policing of black bodies by white people that has been going on for decades.
  • 05:00: Here are a few articles about the hijacking of the word “incel” from one meant to encourage inclusion to the violent, misogynist garbage it has become.
  • 06:15: Here is an article that defines some incel terms and gives an historical overview of the increased visibility of incels in mainstream culture
  • 07:00: Honestly we felt stupid even using this ridiculous language with the “Chads” and the “Stacys” and the “Beckys.” Like, really, what is this shit?!
  • 08:04: Here is a really sickening account from the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) about incels celebrating the Toronto mass killing and another one about different male terror groups that the SPLC follows. And one more for good measure about how the “incel rebellion” is not about sex but about a deep seeded hatred of women. Color us shocked.
  • 09:30: Here is Jessica Valenti’s article for the Times.
  • 13:00: Here is Ross Douthat’s (if you can tell us how to pronounce his name properly that would be GREAT) incredibly tone deaf take on incels
  • 18:44: Here is a blog post by Robin Hanson. It is garbage. He is garbage. Read at your own peril. But we advise keeping something close by that you can throw against the wall or down a hallway without causing yourself, your loved ones or your domicile any damage. We recommend pencils, pillows or a TV brick.
  • 20:00: O.M.G Nathan Larson. This shit is unFUCKINGbelievable. This dude admits to being sexually attracted to children and also to raping his ex-wife and he is running for elected office in the same damn district where the Unite the Right rally took place. We just…we have no words. The United States right now is a god damn dumpster fire.
  • 25:00: Okay so admittedly we got a little excited about men only being valued for their penises. But only for a second. Or 20. And only for comedic effect. Well, mostly.
  • 27:00: True facts. Australian possums are exceedingly cute and the ‘o’ in ‘opossum’ is in fact silent! WOW! Also the opossum is the North America’s only known marsupial! WOW AGAIN!
  • 27:30: Just to be clear, Rebekah did not think that the ‘h’ in ‘honest’ is pronounced.
  • And just because it didn’t really fit anywhere else, you all should FOR SURE read this article by Jia Tolentino for The New Yorker. And basically read everything else she writes because she is aaaaaaamazing. We want to be her when we grow up. Even though she is younger than us.

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